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    RULES FOR GUESTS:
    IDLING IN CHANNEL and LURKING

    What are "Idling" and "Lurking" ?

      Someone IDLING in channel is someone who is sitting there, for no particular reason, as they are reported in a /whois as not having engaged in any IRC activity for a considerable time.

      To check on someone's idle time, do this...

        /whois nick nick
      where nick is the nickname of the person, and you type it twice. Some chat clients actually have a menu item for doing this "extended" form of "whois".

      This "idle time" is not time idle in the channel.
      It is total accumulated idle time since they did something, as reported by the server the person is connected to. It means they have done nothing at all for the whole of that time.

      Someone LURKING in channel is also someone who is just sitting there, for no particular reason, reported in the same "extended" /whois as not having engaged in any IRC activity for a considerable time. The difference is that they are "idling with intent" - which may, or may not necessarily be for illegal or other bad reasons.

    Now please read this part of the channel's policy about bots...

     

    BOTS

      A bot (short for "robot") can be defined as a chat program which runs unattended, and which may respond to commands sent it by message or in channel. A bot often logs conversations, but will not always do so.

      • #Christian already has its own bots, a channel service bot provided by the network, and a Bible-Bot provided by another user. We do not need any other bots. In times of trouble on the net, occasionally a privately owned bot may be brought into channel by one of the senior channel operators if he/she can see an imminent need.

        An example would be in the event of logos lagging badly, or gone altogether.

      • Therefore the only bots welcome on the channel are X, Logos3, CStar, Logos9, and those other bots occasionally brought on by channel managers for specific reasons - such as the Trivia Bot currently being trialled and adjusted.

        Any other bot on the channel will be banned immediately it is recognised as such.

        In the majority of cases this will also have the unfortunate effect of banning the bot's owner

        This is an important security consideration, because unless the bots in channel know each other, a "bot war" can easily result.

        Ops may interpret as a bot any user who does not engage in conversation in the channel, but who responds to "seen" requests in channel, who also ignores private messages, and who may also post messages to people joining and/or leaving channel.

        Guests who lurk for hours without saying anything may also be regarded as bots by definition.

    So, please refer to the section below on IDLING

     

    IDLING IN CHANNEL

      • When these rules were originally framed, it was before the days when permanent 24/7 internet connections were cheap enough for many to afford.

        Consequently we seldom saw idlers or lurkers, except perhaps automated programs for channel control (bots), or by spying devices (snoop bots).

      • #Christian being a channel where there is a ministry function as well as just a social chat function, quite often there will be users apparently not talking, but actually in a private conversation assisting a guest with a problem. This is understood, and of course is acceptable. They will not show up as idling if you do an extended /whois on them if they are talking in private conversation.

     

    WHAT'S WRONG WITH IDLING?

      There are several ways we can look at it.

      Firstly... it is just a question of good manners - what is called netiquette - net etiquette.

        Would you just walk into someone's sitting room where a group of people are talking, and put a tape recorder and a microphone on the table and then go to sleep?

        There is little difference between logging while idling - and doing just that!

       

      Second... People have told us they like to be able to leave each other messages!

        They have said that they log the channel while they are away or sleeping
        "just in case someone left them a message while they aren't there".

        Well, sorry, we don't see that as acceptable behaviour.

        We can offer you a very much better alternative to that. Join our web-board as a member - and here we suggest you use your regulat channel nickname - and you can leave messages for your friends, and they can leave messages for you.

        Now that is much cooler :)

       

      In conclusion...

        You may not have heard of "Denial of Service" or its more recent variations of "Distributed Denial of Service" and "Distributed Reflection Denial of Service".

        However, we (unfortunately) have.

        And so have a multitude of technical experts.

        These are large volume attacks made on other peoples' computers, usually through innocent third parties, by people with lots of spare time on their hands.

        They take advantage of security "holes" that are known to exist in most of the computer operating systems.

        Most people use one of the versions of Microsoft Windows. They are all full of security "holes", even the latest, even with all the fix packs applied.

        If your machine is idling, it is likely you aren't watching what is going on. Therefore your machine is a "sitting duck" waiting to be used by these people in their attacks. And when the damage done is traced back, you will get the blame (not them), because your ISP will be able to say "you were online... you had not logged off, so you are personally responsible for the attack that we know came through your computer".

       

      OTHER SECURITY RISKS TO CHANNEL GUESTS

      • In the past we caught a guest idling who was logging channel traffic for another more militant faith group. That is obviously a breach of confidentiality as who is in the channel is not known outside of the channel... a /names enquiry made outside will not work.

        That is a good example of lurking.

        We have caught and had to ban several other (male) guests who watched channel conversations, never contributing, and who then chatted up female guests in an unpleasant way. We would never have known if we had not had complaints from the victims.

        That is another example of lurking.

      • Someone who is on a number of channels (and also idle) can therefore be even more of a concern. It always raises the question of "what are they doing?"... "Why are they here?"...

      • We have always had a policy where at Senior Ops' discretion people idling in channel could be removed.

        Many channels have an automatic feature in their bot which kicks idlers after a period of time. We do not wish to have to go down that road, but if we have to, we shall. It is already there, waiting for a command from a senior op. You see, good manners on the part of our guests SHOULD cause them to follow our rules without arguing. The rule is not up for debate.

      • This page has been altered to reflect changes in DDOS practices, and to remind all guests and ops that the policy still exists, and is still being implemented.

       

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    last updated on 27th May 2002